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Rifle Lessons Learned from the Zimbabwe Professional Hunter Proficiency Exam
by Don Heat

Big Bore Rifles

Every year Zimbabwe holds two events which provide the perfect testing ground for rifles........

I'll start with my least favourite rifle:- the Weatherby. We don't often see them out here, thank goodness. The one we had this year exhibited the usual Weatherby failing of going off when the safety catch was disengaged. Like all I've seen with this problem, they work fine on the range. It is only after they have been bounced, bumped or jolted whilst loaded and on safe that they do this. I'm sure the problem is correctable and not all do it, however, this one would also not extract at all after the eighth round. It showed decidedly sticky extraction after the first three shots and finally died on number eight. It gives me great pleasure than to dig out my 2lb hammer and beat the bolt of a new rifle open whilst giving the owner a lecture on the benefits of reloading. Weatherby factory ammo always gives extraction problems and needs to be down loaded for use in hot conditions. The .460 is notorious and this .416 proved no different.

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.275 Rigby

Remington 700. The 700 may be a very fine hunting rifle. I don't know because I've never used one, but I do know that it is a piss poor dangerous game rifle especially in .416 Rem caliber. Apart from the odd inexplicable misfire, a broken extractor cost us an elephant wounded and lost at Rifa. This is not the first year that I've seen a broken extractor on a Remington 700 in .416 either. In addition they are just about the hardest rifle to refill the magazine in a hurry. My memories this year of students and candidates using them is that of youngsters frantically trying to thrust cartridges into the mag, only to have a double feed, the rounds pop straight back out or many other problems. A two round reload took on average, twice as long with the Model 700's as it did with just about any other make of rifle. The difference between the Remington and the Weatherby is that the latter can be downloaded a little so as to operate flawlessly and the safety fixed, whilst I do not know that anything can be done with the Remingtons except to re-barrel them to a plains game cartridge and leave them at home when out after the dangerous stuff. To be fair though, all of the extraction problems seem to be confined to rifles in .416 and .375. and they seem reasonably reliable in .458 provided you are prepared to tolerate the awkwardness of the reload. I am not. A good single shot or even a Weatherby is a better choice.

Then we come to one that surprises me. Ruger. The early Ruger M77's with the non rotating claw extractors but still a push feed mechanism, in .458 Win could be relied upon to jam if the bolt was worked quickly. In the 1980's the National Parks culling teams found this out the hard way and the new Rugers were quickly disposed of or issued to stations where a heavy rifle was seldom required. The new MkII Ruger with a proper controlled feed seemed to be a vast improvement and were reputed to work a whole lot better and of course come at a top dollar price. I learned differently. All but one out of seven I've seen or handled this year (6 in .416 Rigby and one .458 Win) would not eject if the bolt was opened vigorously. Slow down just a fraction and they throw the empty case half way into the next province. For a client coming out to Africa this may be acceptable. Any really fast fancy shooting is going to be the PH's.

For the Professional Hunter or Guide though, a rifle that is guaranteed not to eject when worked at speed is a death sentence waiting to happen. The fault lies with the sprung loaded ejector that springs into place as the bolt is withdrawn. Work the bolt at a moderate speed and the ejector is in place to cleanly throw the case clear. Work the bolt fast and the ejector is still on its way up when the case passes over it. A few will work provided the ejector is scrupulously clean and well oiled but many will not do even that (and how do you keep it clean AND oiled in the usual dusty conditions?). A much stronger spring and a little polishing of the raceway that it fits into may cure the problem, but they are not safe as they come from the factory. A local gun shop tells me that they have sent two new rifles back this year because of this problem, and our local top gunsmith tells me that while most can be made to work perfectly, some cannot. Ruger needs to wake up, their No.1, single shot rifle is a far safer and more dependable weapon than their bolt action.

The Browning A Bolt. The Jury is still out on this as there are very few around at present and all the ones I've seen have been left handed models. One out of two had a problem with the magazine. Beating the floor plate back down with a rock is nearly as much fun as taking a hammer to a Weatherby. I must say I really LIKE the safety catch. It is certainly the best out of any of the rifles I've used this year, but I'm not sure on the push feed and extractor. Time will tell, but I have no intention of being the guinea pig.

Winchesters new M70 with the controlled feed back, is light years ahead of the old version which just about rivaled the Remington 700. I have only three complaints about the new ones. The bolt anti bind rail on one of them bent and briefly jammed the rifle, but I threw it away and the rifle worked just fine after that. The stocks need to be properly bedded and pinned. They are a good shape, nice wood, but they crack (and worse) if you don't take them to somebody and have the bedding seen to before you start throwing a few hundred rounds down range. My biggest gripe about the Winchester is that the safety catch is on the WRONG side. On the right handed model, the safety catch is perfect for a left hander and visa versa on the left handed edition. Heavens to Hiawatha, surely somebody at US Repeating Arms (who make Winchester) has walked outside and tried to swing the rifle up for a snap shot from either the trail or from a sling! You cannot grab the pistol grip and take the safety off in one movement, and on average it took Winchester owners a second longer to disengage the safety and fire the first shot compared to Mausers or Browning A Bolts. Time and fumbling around with an awkward safety can get you killed in a tight corner, and the real insult is that they make both, and that the current left handed safety is quicker and easier to use for a right hander than a Mauser type flag safety. More and more PH's are seeing the light and fitting a good Ghost ring aperture sight to their dangerous game rifles so I suppose the pathetic excuse of a rear sight that Winchester fits at the factory can be ignored.

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.470 Nitro Express

Interarms Mk X. Apart from the fact that the barrels are soft and wear out very quickly, these are intrinsically sound rifles that are simply shoddily put together. They are famed for springing the magazine floor plate open and dumping the contents on the firers feet. Never seen one that wouldn't feed reliably though, and with a little bit of gun smithing to make the safety catch more positive (it is also on the wrong side) so that it doesn't get accidentally swept on as the bolt is opened (or accidentally knocked off in the bush) and the stock properly bedded to cure the magazine dump they can be made into very workable rifles. They are though, very definitely rifles that you take first to your gunsmith and only then into the bush as the two students at Rifa discovered.

That sums up the American offerings for this year. The Winchester is definitely the best, but it still requires work and a replacement safety and rear sight when it comes out of the box before it can be considered serviceable.

Most of the European made rifles are priced well out of the reach of all learners and even most qualified PH's. The one Mannlicher in evidence this year worked superbly with much to recommend it if you can stomach the price. By far the most common big game rifles we see here, and the biggest single make on the exam, was the Bruno/CZ.

This is one of the most rugged but also the cheapest heavy rifles available in Africa and has been for many years now. There have also been a variety of different models. The early ones dating from the fifties and sixties were absolutely tops (I have a 1950 model), and these probably represent the best buys on the second hand market along with the Fabrique National made Mausers. The current models coming out are not bad, but far from perfect. CZ has finally got around to doing something about the safety catch which was perfect on the 1950's models (which was superior to an original Mauser) and singularly awful there after as it worked the wrong way around (back to fire) and was located on the wrong side of the action. The safety still isn't great, being small and still located on the wrong side of the receiver for a right handed person. It also comes on and off too easily. The biggest problem that arose with them was the firer accidentally knocking on the safety whilst manipulating the bolt. At least five Bruno/CZ owners had trouble with this either during the training sessions or in the exam.

Another problem patently apparent with all of the .458 Win models is that they will not reliably feed soft point ammunition until quite a lot of work has been done to the magazine box and feed. The .458 Win case is simply too short for the huge Bruno magnum action (which comfortably accommodates the .416 Rigby round), and the rounds slide around in that cavernous magazine under recoil and then feeding problems occur. The best thing anybody can do with a Bruno/CZ in .458 Win is to have a competent gunsmith re-chamber it to .458 Lott. This not only solves the feeding troubles but also gets away from the problems of the .458 Win cartridge. The only problem now though is that the stock needs to be properly bedded and pinned or it will crack. The other interesting phenomena arose with some of the older rifles chambered in .375 H&H. The chambers were fantastically oversize, and the spent cartridge cases emerge looking like an Ackley or Weatherby improved round. The head space is fine and it is not dangerous but forget about reloading. One thing is for sure, a little dirt in the action isn't going to tie up these rifles!

The remainder of the field was made up of Mauser actioned rifles. The original Mauser in .404 and the FN in .458 worked great, as expected. The trouble for a learner Hunter or Guide is that these makes are hard to come by. Original Mausers are beginning to wear out, and apart from .404 and 9,3x62, most are chambered for rounds unsuitable for serious hunting. As soon as you see a Mauser chambered in .458 or .375 you know that it is a conversion, (see my comments on custom rifles below). FN's are seldom seen on the second hand market. They represent the peak in the Mauser rifles development, and those lucky enough to own one seldom find a reason good enough to sell it.

Custom Rifles. The Mauser is one of my all time favourite rifles, but apart from a very few original rifles all the ones we see arecustomï built. This year's exam reiterated that a custom rifle can vary greatly in quality. Two were fine, the other two not. There are an awful lot of armourers out there posing as gunsmiths, and only the best gunsmiths should be allowed to build a dangerous game rifle. The biggest problem with all custom Mausers occurs with the feed. Mausers were originally built with the magazine boxes machined to match the cartridge for which the rifle was being chambered. The magazine box on a 9,3 is quite different from that for a 8x57. Too many gunsmiths simply screw on a .458 barrel and forget that the magazine box must be altered (best option) or the feed rails extensively worked...... One of the two candidates who's custom Mausers worked on the exam told me that she had had feeding trouble and had taken the rifles to a competent gun smith to have the problem solved. It had cost a considerable amount of time and money to get her rifle into full working order. The last was from a local supplier of custom rifles who knows about such things and the requirements for absolute reliability, and it worked great.....
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.500 Jeffries

We didn't see any of the English made rifles this year, but as a warning to potential purchasers there is a considerable difference between an English top grade rifle and a second or third class weapon. Back when they were originally sold the purchaser knew what he was getting, but these days any rifle with an English makers name on it is taken as being a good quality rifle. This is decidedly not true. Perhaps the two best examples are the Westley-Richards .425 "White Hunter" models and some (but decidedly not all) of the Cogswell and Harrison .404's. Westley Richards turned out a great many superb .425's but they also produced a cheap line intended for government service or the "native trade", known as the "White Hunter" model. These were built on war surplus K98 Mauser actions, without due attention to magazine box dimensions or the feed rails. They make a Weatherby cross Remington 700 look like a dream rifle. Much the same can be said for some of the Cogswells built on war surplus P14 actions. The second grade guns work fine, but the third grade weapons are on a par with the "White Hunter".

That completes the overview on this season's rifles. Too much rubbish is being sold, at vastly inflated prices that will get a tyro hunter killed. It annoys me, to put it mildly!

Die BlaMaSau scheint nicht einmal erwähnenswert....!

Gruß

HWL
 
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Ich habe ne Ruger M77 Mag in .416 Rigby, repetiert vor allem in der Zuführung nicht zuverlässig.
Ne win 70, leider post 64, ist top, .375.
Ne Custom Weatherby in 8x68s ist auch top.

Alle waren öfter in Afrika.
 
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Hallo,

nach Afrika nimmt man am besten das mit, was zur bejagenden Spezies paßt.
Geht´s auf Duicker und kl. Antilopen/Gazellen ist ´ne .416, .458 oder .470 natürl. fehl am Platze, allerdings will man wenn man schon in Afrika ist, dann auch wie Lord Foundleroy anno 1925 losziehen, auch wenn am Ende der 7-tägigen Safari keine 10 Elefanten, 7 Nashörner, 5 Flußpferde, 6 Büffel, 3 Löwen, 2 Leoparde, 2 Kudus, 1 Eland, 3 Zebras, 4 Hardbeest, 3 Wasserböcke und 2 marodierende Mau-Maus auf der Strecke liegen.
Auch muß man sich fragen, ob bei einer einmaligen GW-Jagd (Dickhäuter) die Anschaffung einer schweren Waffe ab Kal. .450 sinnvoll ist, man wird sie sonst sein leben Lang nicht mehr brauchen.
Da ist man dann mit einer Waffe um Kal. .40 (10mm) besser beraten, zumal sich da die meisten auch noch für stärkeres europ. und nordamerik. Schalenwild runterladen lassen und somit auch hier eingesetzt werden können.
Die größte Antilopenart, die Elandantilope, wird ca. 800-900kg schwer und läßt sich wohl mit allem schießen, was man auch auf den starken Alaska-/Kamtschatkaelch verwenden würde und da käme doch auch niemand auf die Idee mit der .416Rigby, .458Lott oder .500N.E. hinzufahren.
Eine starke Patrone ab .300Win.Mag./8x64S bis 9,3x64/.375H&H sollte dicke dafür reichen, wichtig ist halt immer die Geschoßkonstruktion, nicht zu hart und nicht zu weich, da Nachsuchen in Afrika immer ´ne haarige Sache sind (Löwe, Hyäne sind dort des Menschen Nahrungskonkurenten).
Für kleinere Antilopen bis zur ca. 300kg schweren Rappenantilope und dem Kudu nimmt man dann am besten das, was man auch zur Jagd auf starkes Rotwild oder den europ. Elch nehmen würde, also ab .30-06/8x57JS bis 9,3x62/x74R.
Die kleineren Antilopen und Gazellen dann ab 6,5x55 bis 7x64/.308Win.

Hat man gut Erfahrung gesammelt, kommt man auch mit "weniger Kaliber" auf alles aus. Nicht umsonst waren in der Zeit 1900-1950, als Afrika noch weit weniger besiedelt war und noch bedeutend mehr Wild umherzog, bei den Siedlern die 9,3x62 und die 10,75x68 im 98er System die am weitesten verbreiteten Universal-Kaliber/Waffen-Kombination, die vom Duicker für den Fleischtopf bis zum exitenzbedrohenden Schadelefanten alles abdecken mußten, zudem noch (Waffe wie Munition) erschwinglich und beim Schuß beherrschbar waren.
Siedelte man nicht im Elefenaten- und/oder Nashorngebiet, reichten auch 7x57, 8x57, 9x57.

Mit deiner 10,75x68 hast du also schon ´ne gute Wahl getroffen. ;-)
Dazu würde auch gut eine Blockbüchse oder DB in .450/.400 N.E. passen, war auch so ein beliebtes "Mädchen für alles".


Um genau bei der Überschrift zu bleiben:

das Wichtigste in Afrika ist wohl gutes Schuhwerk und ein Moskitonetz. :cool:


Grüße
Sirius
 
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Der heimliche Star ist für alles die .404 Jeffety, die .416 Rigby ist eine Legende und die Allroundpstrone für Afrika schlecht hin, und alles geht mit der .375 H&H. Die geht auch sonst überall und auf alles Wild. Vom Wbär bis zum kodiak.
 
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Empfiehlt er auch was oder nennt er nur die Waffen, die man nicht nehmen sollte?
 
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Gelegentlich lese ich von Auslandsjägern,
die ihre neue Waffe zum Flugplatz geliefert bekamen.
:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: LOL...:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
zu kurzer Schlagbolzen ... eingefrorenes Fett....
....versagende Repetierfunktion....
....
ich war leider nur zwei mal in SAR.
1969 mit mienrer M 66 in .308 auf Impala,
1992 mit BB .375 H&H auf Büffel.
den Kudu habe ich mit einer geliehenen .30.06 geschossen,
da die BB nur auf 70 m eingeschossen war.
Beide Waffen hatte ich vorher mehrere Jahr in D. auf Drückjagden geführt.
.....
Ein Freund - Büffeljäger - hat beim Abholen seiner 500 Jeffry bei einem rennomierten BüMa-Großwildjäger feststellen müssen,
daß diese auf dem Schießstand beim Repetieren klemmte....
Repeiterfunktion wird von Deutschen Jägern nur in den seltesten Fällen geprüft....
Wurde mir auch vor XX Jahren von Herrn Jakobi in Baumholder bestätigt.
" Bitte nur EINE Patrone laden ".....
Hat sich inzwischen dan Schießkinos verbessert...
P.:)
 
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Ich habe ne Ruger M77 Mag in .416 Rigby, repetiert vor allem in der Zuführung nicht zuverlässig.
Ne win 70, leider post 64, ist top, .375.
Ne Custom Weatherby in 8x68s ist auch top.

Alle waren öfter in Afrika.

Ruger, Winchester & Weatherby....wie hast du es nur geschafft, da wieder lebend rauszukommen!!!

;-)

Gruß

HWL
 
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Nach meinen geringen Afrika-Erfahrungen sind die wenigsten "Professional Hunters" finanziell erfolgreich.
Nur ein Selbstvermarkter wie Mark Sullivan schafft es,
eine Doppelbüchse mit seinem Namen geschenkt zu bekommen.
...und wenn einer der ärmeren PH eine Waffe gesponsert bekomm,
wird er diese nicht schlecht reden.....er braucht ja in wenigen Jahren Ersatz...
...und wenn 'Finanzinvestoren rennomierte - aber pleite gegangenen - englischen Firmennamen aufkaufen....
um danach in Billigstlohnländern Kopienen herstellen zu lassen,
kann man den Käufern nur zurufen:
"Dummheit muß bestraft werden "
P.
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Berufsjäger oder wie sagt man Prof.Hunter sagte 2003 zu mir was schiesst du zu Hause , ich sagte 270 Win und 9,3 x 62 Antwort war warum kommst du mit einer 375 H&H.Wenn du 270Win und 9,3x62 sauber beherscht brauchst du nichst anderes.Frage was heist Sauber ? Antwort 5 Schuss auf Schuhschachtel !!
Wieder was dazu gelernt.
 
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Seit Ende der 70er Jahre habe ich "erst" etwa siebzig Afrikajagdreisen alleine oder mit Gästen durchgeführt. Wenn ich in fast allen Fällen für mich alleine und ohne Führer in Wüste, Savanne oder Regenwald jagte, habe ich einige hundert Stück Großwild mit der .30-06 und dem NP in 180grs erlegt.
Was ich damit alles an Arten erfolgreich und selten mit nennenswerten Nachsuchen streckte, möchte ich hier nicht aufführen, weil es sicher erheblichen Protest von "erfahreneren" Afrikajägern auslösen würde.
Als buchender und geführter Gastjäger hat man sich selbstverständlich unbedingt an die Jagdgesetze der Länder zu halten! Geführte Jagdgäste benötigen auf keine afrikanische Wildart ein stärkeres Kaliber als die .375H&H mit gutem Geschoss, welche auch auf alle Wildarten zugelassen ist.
Gefährliche Nachsuchen mit notwendigem "Stoppen" von annehmendem Großwild wird kaum ein PH mit einem bewaffneten Jagdgast im Rücken durchführen.
Die wenigsten Gastjäger werden im Leben mehr als einen Elefanten, zwei Büffel sowie möglicherweise zwei unterschiedliche Großkatzen in Afrika erlegen. Dafür ist die Anschaffung eines erheblich stärkeren Kalibers als der .375H&H absolut unnötig. Für die meisten ist nicht die Notwendigkeit, sondern das "Habenwollen" ein Grund für den Erwerb einer extrem starke Waffe. Das möchte ich auch keinem ausreden und habe für jeden Wunsch Verständnis.
Nur wenn ich gefragt werde, sage ich auch meine persönliche Meinung. Für alles Wild bis Großantilopen hat noch keiner meiner Kunden die Annahme meiner Empfehlung bereut, wenn ich ihm die Mitnahme seiner gewohnten Waffe in einem in Deutschland geführten Standardkaliber für alle Hochwildarten in Verbindung mit einem guten Geschoss geraten hatte.
 
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Sirius :was willst Du mit einer 8x64s ?? Mit einer kräftige 6,5er oder 7mm und eine .375 VC ''' kannst Du alles Wild ''' auf der ganzen Planet niederlegen und noch dazu ohne Nachsuche, so einfach ist es.

Servus - 8,5mm M.M.
 
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All die Kaliberdiskussion beantwortet letztlich nicht die Frage, welches System (darum ging es doch im eingestellten Artikel) man am besten in Afrika führt. Und dann wäre noch zwischen Savanne und Wald zu unterscheiden...
 
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All die Kaliberdiskussion beantwortet letztlich nicht die Frage, welches System (darum ging es doch im eingestellten Artikel) man am besten in Afrika führt. Und dann wäre noch zwischen Savanne und Wald zu unterscheiden...

Das sehe ich auch so,....in dem Artikel ging es primär nicht um Kaliber, sondern um die zuverlässige Funktion verschiedener Repetierbüchsensystemen für Dangerous Game.

Und selbstverständlich würde ich da mit meiner eigenen Waffe anrollen,.... selbst wenn ich nur einmal im Leben einen Büffel schießen würde.

Den leg ich doch nicht mit einem geliehenen Dorfprügel um.....

Gruß

HWL
 

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