Grüs Gott Alle Jäger!
Ich bin ein Finn, ein bischen über 30 Jahr alt, ganz neue in diesen wunderbar Forum und habe in Deutschland seit zwei Jahr gearbeitet. Aber mein Herz ist noch sehr viel in Finnland und ich will in halbe Jahr zuruck umzogen. Meine deutsch is ganz schlecht aber ich versuche mein Bestes!
Seit viele Jahre ich habe gedanken dass ich sollte mehr Zeit in Wildniss verbringen, weil es ist mein Traumleben - Urlaube habe ich nicht genug und meine Frau mag nicht dass ich bin ganz Urlaub jeden Jahr in Wildnis (ich glaube Sie könnten eine Ahnung haben, was ich meine Meine) Lösung ist, um zu versuchen, ein kleines "Geschäft" um mein Hobby zu machen. Dafür habe ich jetzt nicht genug "Bälle" aber diese Thema ist die erste konkrete Sache in Richtung meines Ziels. Ich suche jetzt "test Kunden" und würde gerne Ihre Meinung zu meiner Idee zu hören. Mein Plan ist ganz anders als bei bestehenden Firmen. Die restlichen schreibe ich auf Englisch. Ich kann doch alles übersetzen, wenn jemand möchte!
So my trips that I have been doing for now almost 15 years have more and more moved from ordinary hunting towards what I would call hiking-hunting. I spend 5-14 days in the wilderness with my dogs, tent and a shotgun. The most important reason for this is that this to me is a perfect way to relax all the stress that is caused by ordinary working life (I am a physicist with a doctor tittle working with quite stressful issues). Plus I like the landscapes, being alone but not lonely and definitely enjoy also the pure nature there. In this trips I rarely see a single person, I often see a lot of polar lights, wild animals and, at least so far, also have had the pleasure to catch game. As I have two german shorthaired pointers (Deutsch Kurzhaar), my primary goal is to hunt birds in these areas. My dogs are not hunting champions, but I would say that they are about the average level hunting dogs in Finland (maybe even above the average) and usually they do their job rather well. Typically I hunt every year at least 1-3 weeks capercallie and black grouse (Auerhahn, Birkhuhn) and at least 1-3 weeks willow grouse (~Scheehuhn). I try to bring my fishing gear with me and often try to catch wild trout (Forellen), Artic Char (Saibling), grayling (Äsche), perch (Barsch) but sometimes have to be happy "only" with a pike (Hecht) that can be quite gigantic around there (up to even 8-10kg). Some of the areas are famous brown bear country but I have never seen a living bear there, although almost every year I see several traces of them and they definitely are there. With out a specialized bear dog, they are quite difficult to catch. One can buy a licence to shoot them but it is pretty much useless for me, as said, with out a bear dog. Mine only mark the traces, not follow the tracks or so. Same goes with other big game like moose, reindeer and so on that live there. For those you cannot even buy a licence that easily. Therefore, I will not even try to offer big game, I offer only bird hunting but it will the best bird hunting that Scandinavia has to offer. Naturally, there is a possibility to aim the trip according to the wishes of the client. If you want to try capercaillie, I will choose the region that is the best at the given year to meet that goal and so on. Please note that I observe in real-time during the summer what is the weather situation around in Lapland, how is the breeding going on (pretty much weather after the egg-phase decides how is the hunting next year) and what are the results of the annual inventories (Finland has by far the best wild game inventory system in the world, organized by local hunting clubs) just before the hunting season starts. This guarantees that we will always head to one of the best areas!
My trips take place almost everywhere in Lapland, both in Finland and in Sweden. I've used Canoe to move closer to the heart of Wilderness. As I have done this for years, basically all of my life, I've gained a lot of expertise on where to go and when. Also I have learned to really respect the areas that I visit. In fact, I extremely rarely shoot anything more than I can eat during my trips - it is also very much a practical thing since you don't really want to carry too much weight with you! I always respect the locals and even though I do not usually need any services, I try to utilize those whenever possible (for example book a cabin before I start my trip for the last night, or any other help that I might need). As said, we can pretty much choose the hunt according to your preferences. Here are some examples of my personal favorites: 5-6 days in the borealis forest hunting (mainly) for capercaillie. This happens in North-East Finland, we can use the canoe to transport one of the wilderness areas there, we can use tent or a tradinional finnish loue (a bit like open lean-to) and prepare all the food in the campfire. This option is difficult to combine with fishing. We will buy a permit to chop firewood that allows to live like my ancestors lived: by the fire, with the fire. Another favorite of mine is 5-6 days of willow grouse hunting either in Finland or in Sweden. This offers you to see some of the most rough nature that we have to offer. Really the remainings of the wilderness that we still have here in Europe! No trees, just fjälls (like a small mountains), rivers and lakes. And of course birds! This is a perfect option for the ones that like to combine fishing to trip, option to pretty much catch anything from grayling, wild trout to arctic char. Please note that in both countries you do not need a fishing license, you just pay the permit. I have fishing gear for you as well. Usually I set up a camp next to a lake with good fishing, hunt for the day and during the evening try my look in the lake. I also sometimes carry fishing gear during the day and when suitable lake comes by, try my luck. There trips are done with a tent (the weather can be quite harsh in terms of wind), and a gas boiler since one can not rely on finding enough firewood.
My idea is to keep the costs of these trips minimal, but the quality should always be top level since the original reason to organize this is to spend more time myself. So if I wouldn't do my best to maximize the quality of the trips, I would never even consider starting anything like this. My first idea was that the clients should would pay the costs, which in this kind of trips are quite minimal and then would have at the end of the journey an option to pay for my services as a tip - anything starting from 0 € to the sum that they consider is appropriate for my efforts. Just to give you an idea about the costs: a flight from München to Oulu and back ~300€ (might need to pay something for the gun, if you want to bring your own), there I will pick you up and we will drive to Lapland, diesel ~100€, the optional cabin before and after the trip ~100€, everything to eat and drink ~150€. Hunting permits 15-25€/day, fishing permits almost nothing. I might have missed something here, but the biggest parts are here and sums up to something around 700-1000€. If you need something extra, that can always be arranged but might cost more. You could also fly to Kuopio and we can stay at my own hunting cabin and thus save some money and maybe hunt some ducks there as well!
Please note that I am already aware of all the regulation necessary to get you, your weapons and the hunting licence for you for this trip. This is, however, only in theory and we have to start the process quite early to see how it goes in practice. I do not expect any problems if you can share with me your i) european gunpass and ii) german hunting licence. Please note also that I take care of everything from buying the hunting licences (this is quite tricky here in Finland, you must be a professional to get them for the best times and best areas but I have so far managed to be quite lucky in this process), and taking care of the transportation from airport and so on. I'll also will take care of a role of a cook, I have a few special dishes but I can guarantee that everythign you will be served will taste good (it is not because I am the best cook in the world, but mainly because after walking around outside for the full day you are so hungry that it is the best spice ever!).
The list of items you need for this kind of trip are something like this: light weight shotgun (12 16 or 20 caliber is fine), bunch of ammo (I personally use 32g, 2.7-3.1mm for all the birds, they are also handy to carry with you), a backbag 60-80L (can be rented), sleeping bag and matress (can be rented), proper waterproof outer layer cloths, 2-3 layers of underwear clothing, personal gear (toothbrush etc) and that's about it. Everything else I will provide. Please note also that I am not a fan of all these "survival stories". I will NOT go the wilderness to survive, I go there to enjoy! It is after all my bed room, kitchen, living room, movie theater and play station! Who could then join? The trips can be a little physical since we need to carry our gear to the wilderness and back. Usually the backbag at start is anything between 15-35kg, so quite heavy. But I usually set up a main camp to ease the effort. So you suffer most the first day, and a little bit less the last day. The days between are done with light weight bags from the main camp. So, everyone that can carry around 35kg for around 10km can definitely join to all of my trips, and quite a bit less enables still good trips as well! It is definitely possible to ease the transport effort by using canoe or asking the help of locals (for some particular places it is possible to organize 4wheel transport of the gear). One most realize that the hiking part is, however, an essential part of these trips. This allows us to be well separated from the road network that will take most of the hunting pressure. We are usually starting our hunts further about 7-10km to nearest road and thus enjoying hunting of truly wild animals that might have never seen a human being! Please note also that I use my dogs to carry their own food and part of my gear with a dog-backbags. Sometimes the adventure is complete using canoe to move around, due to space restrictions it unfortunately works with maximum of 2 humans plus the dogs.
Due to the nature of these trips, you will be treated more like a friend rather than a client. We will anyway sleep within the same tent so it must be this way! I cannot guarantee that we shoot certain number of birds (the limits are 2 caparcaillier/trip, 1 per day, 3 willow grouses/day in Finland and 8 in Sweden, and they are all personal), so far I have never made one with out getting anything though but it does not mean that this would not happen ever! I cannot guarantee polar lights either, but we are definitely outside in the areas where it is very likely to see them (I enjoy several full green dancing skies every year). What I can guarantee that you will spend a week in a good company, enjoying truly wilderness and this trip you will remember (one way or the other) for the rest of your life. I must, however, warn you that it is not only me that has been sentenced for life - a man can leave from Lapland but Lapland never leaves from you! Every night I dream about the next trip, about the next morning in the wilderness, about the next experiences with my dogs, just simple life that will full your soul! Maybe it sounds poetic but it is the truth!
Die erste Frage. Würden Sie denken, dass deutsche Jäger Interesse haben würden, an diesen Reisen teilzunehmen? Auch dafür zu bezahlen? Und die zweite Frage ist. Würde jemand von hier aus bereit sein, das zu versuchen? Vielleich schon September-Oktober 2017? Da ich gar nicht entschieden habe ob ich das Geschäft anfangen werde, würden wir genau so tun wie bei echten Kunden, aber dieses Mal können wir alle Kosten 50/50 teilen. Die Reise ist mit 1-2 Personen möglich.
Ich freue mich auf Ihre Antwort! Fühlen Sie sich bitte frei, auch etwas über die Jagd in Finnland von mir zu fragen, ich werde versuchen zu antworten! Wenn es sich nicht um diese Thema handelt, dann benutze bitte pm.
Ich bin ein Finn, ein bischen über 30 Jahr alt, ganz neue in diesen wunderbar Forum und habe in Deutschland seit zwei Jahr gearbeitet. Aber mein Herz ist noch sehr viel in Finnland und ich will in halbe Jahr zuruck umzogen. Meine deutsch is ganz schlecht aber ich versuche mein Bestes!
Seit viele Jahre ich habe gedanken dass ich sollte mehr Zeit in Wildniss verbringen, weil es ist mein Traumleben - Urlaube habe ich nicht genug und meine Frau mag nicht dass ich bin ganz Urlaub jeden Jahr in Wildnis (ich glaube Sie könnten eine Ahnung haben, was ich meine Meine) Lösung ist, um zu versuchen, ein kleines "Geschäft" um mein Hobby zu machen. Dafür habe ich jetzt nicht genug "Bälle" aber diese Thema ist die erste konkrete Sache in Richtung meines Ziels. Ich suche jetzt "test Kunden" und würde gerne Ihre Meinung zu meiner Idee zu hören. Mein Plan ist ganz anders als bei bestehenden Firmen. Die restlichen schreibe ich auf Englisch. Ich kann doch alles übersetzen, wenn jemand möchte!
So my trips that I have been doing for now almost 15 years have more and more moved from ordinary hunting towards what I would call hiking-hunting. I spend 5-14 days in the wilderness with my dogs, tent and a shotgun. The most important reason for this is that this to me is a perfect way to relax all the stress that is caused by ordinary working life (I am a physicist with a doctor tittle working with quite stressful issues). Plus I like the landscapes, being alone but not lonely and definitely enjoy also the pure nature there. In this trips I rarely see a single person, I often see a lot of polar lights, wild animals and, at least so far, also have had the pleasure to catch game. As I have two german shorthaired pointers (Deutsch Kurzhaar), my primary goal is to hunt birds in these areas. My dogs are not hunting champions, but I would say that they are about the average level hunting dogs in Finland (maybe even above the average) and usually they do their job rather well. Typically I hunt every year at least 1-3 weeks capercallie and black grouse (Auerhahn, Birkhuhn) and at least 1-3 weeks willow grouse (~Scheehuhn). I try to bring my fishing gear with me and often try to catch wild trout (Forellen), Artic Char (Saibling), grayling (Äsche), perch (Barsch) but sometimes have to be happy "only" with a pike (Hecht) that can be quite gigantic around there (up to even 8-10kg). Some of the areas are famous brown bear country but I have never seen a living bear there, although almost every year I see several traces of them and they definitely are there. With out a specialized bear dog, they are quite difficult to catch. One can buy a licence to shoot them but it is pretty much useless for me, as said, with out a bear dog. Mine only mark the traces, not follow the tracks or so. Same goes with other big game like moose, reindeer and so on that live there. For those you cannot even buy a licence that easily. Therefore, I will not even try to offer big game, I offer only bird hunting but it will the best bird hunting that Scandinavia has to offer. Naturally, there is a possibility to aim the trip according to the wishes of the client. If you want to try capercaillie, I will choose the region that is the best at the given year to meet that goal and so on. Please note that I observe in real-time during the summer what is the weather situation around in Lapland, how is the breeding going on (pretty much weather after the egg-phase decides how is the hunting next year) and what are the results of the annual inventories (Finland has by far the best wild game inventory system in the world, organized by local hunting clubs) just before the hunting season starts. This guarantees that we will always head to one of the best areas!
My trips take place almost everywhere in Lapland, both in Finland and in Sweden. I've used Canoe to move closer to the heart of Wilderness. As I have done this for years, basically all of my life, I've gained a lot of expertise on where to go and when. Also I have learned to really respect the areas that I visit. In fact, I extremely rarely shoot anything more than I can eat during my trips - it is also very much a practical thing since you don't really want to carry too much weight with you! I always respect the locals and even though I do not usually need any services, I try to utilize those whenever possible (for example book a cabin before I start my trip for the last night, or any other help that I might need). As said, we can pretty much choose the hunt according to your preferences. Here are some examples of my personal favorites: 5-6 days in the borealis forest hunting (mainly) for capercaillie. This happens in North-East Finland, we can use the canoe to transport one of the wilderness areas there, we can use tent or a tradinional finnish loue (a bit like open lean-to) and prepare all the food in the campfire. This option is difficult to combine with fishing. We will buy a permit to chop firewood that allows to live like my ancestors lived: by the fire, with the fire. Another favorite of mine is 5-6 days of willow grouse hunting either in Finland or in Sweden. This offers you to see some of the most rough nature that we have to offer. Really the remainings of the wilderness that we still have here in Europe! No trees, just fjälls (like a small mountains), rivers and lakes. And of course birds! This is a perfect option for the ones that like to combine fishing to trip, option to pretty much catch anything from grayling, wild trout to arctic char. Please note that in both countries you do not need a fishing license, you just pay the permit. I have fishing gear for you as well. Usually I set up a camp next to a lake with good fishing, hunt for the day and during the evening try my look in the lake. I also sometimes carry fishing gear during the day and when suitable lake comes by, try my luck. There trips are done with a tent (the weather can be quite harsh in terms of wind), and a gas boiler since one can not rely on finding enough firewood.
My idea is to keep the costs of these trips minimal, but the quality should always be top level since the original reason to organize this is to spend more time myself. So if I wouldn't do my best to maximize the quality of the trips, I would never even consider starting anything like this. My first idea was that the clients should would pay the costs, which in this kind of trips are quite minimal and then would have at the end of the journey an option to pay for my services as a tip - anything starting from 0 € to the sum that they consider is appropriate for my efforts. Just to give you an idea about the costs: a flight from München to Oulu and back ~300€ (might need to pay something for the gun, if you want to bring your own), there I will pick you up and we will drive to Lapland, diesel ~100€, the optional cabin before and after the trip ~100€, everything to eat and drink ~150€. Hunting permits 15-25€/day, fishing permits almost nothing. I might have missed something here, but the biggest parts are here and sums up to something around 700-1000€. If you need something extra, that can always be arranged but might cost more. You could also fly to Kuopio and we can stay at my own hunting cabin and thus save some money and maybe hunt some ducks there as well!
Please note that I am already aware of all the regulation necessary to get you, your weapons and the hunting licence for you for this trip. This is, however, only in theory and we have to start the process quite early to see how it goes in practice. I do not expect any problems if you can share with me your i) european gunpass and ii) german hunting licence. Please note also that I take care of everything from buying the hunting licences (this is quite tricky here in Finland, you must be a professional to get them for the best times and best areas but I have so far managed to be quite lucky in this process), and taking care of the transportation from airport and so on. I'll also will take care of a role of a cook, I have a few special dishes but I can guarantee that everythign you will be served will taste good (it is not because I am the best cook in the world, but mainly because after walking around outside for the full day you are so hungry that it is the best spice ever!).
The list of items you need for this kind of trip are something like this: light weight shotgun (12 16 or 20 caliber is fine), bunch of ammo (I personally use 32g, 2.7-3.1mm for all the birds, they are also handy to carry with you), a backbag 60-80L (can be rented), sleeping bag and matress (can be rented), proper waterproof outer layer cloths, 2-3 layers of underwear clothing, personal gear (toothbrush etc) and that's about it. Everything else I will provide. Please note also that I am not a fan of all these "survival stories". I will NOT go the wilderness to survive, I go there to enjoy! It is after all my bed room, kitchen, living room, movie theater and play station! Who could then join? The trips can be a little physical since we need to carry our gear to the wilderness and back. Usually the backbag at start is anything between 15-35kg, so quite heavy. But I usually set up a main camp to ease the effort. So you suffer most the first day, and a little bit less the last day. The days between are done with light weight bags from the main camp. So, everyone that can carry around 35kg for around 10km can definitely join to all of my trips, and quite a bit less enables still good trips as well! It is definitely possible to ease the transport effort by using canoe or asking the help of locals (for some particular places it is possible to organize 4wheel transport of the gear). One most realize that the hiking part is, however, an essential part of these trips. This allows us to be well separated from the road network that will take most of the hunting pressure. We are usually starting our hunts further about 7-10km to nearest road and thus enjoying hunting of truly wild animals that might have never seen a human being! Please note also that I use my dogs to carry their own food and part of my gear with a dog-backbags. Sometimes the adventure is complete using canoe to move around, due to space restrictions it unfortunately works with maximum of 2 humans plus the dogs.
Due to the nature of these trips, you will be treated more like a friend rather than a client. We will anyway sleep within the same tent so it must be this way! I cannot guarantee that we shoot certain number of birds (the limits are 2 caparcaillier/trip, 1 per day, 3 willow grouses/day in Finland and 8 in Sweden, and they are all personal), so far I have never made one with out getting anything though but it does not mean that this would not happen ever! I cannot guarantee polar lights either, but we are definitely outside in the areas where it is very likely to see them (I enjoy several full green dancing skies every year). What I can guarantee that you will spend a week in a good company, enjoying truly wilderness and this trip you will remember (one way or the other) for the rest of your life. I must, however, warn you that it is not only me that has been sentenced for life - a man can leave from Lapland but Lapland never leaves from you! Every night I dream about the next trip, about the next morning in the wilderness, about the next experiences with my dogs, just simple life that will full your soul! Maybe it sounds poetic but it is the truth!
Die erste Frage. Würden Sie denken, dass deutsche Jäger Interesse haben würden, an diesen Reisen teilzunehmen? Auch dafür zu bezahlen? Und die zweite Frage ist. Würde jemand von hier aus bereit sein, das zu versuchen? Vielleich schon September-Oktober 2017? Da ich gar nicht entschieden habe ob ich das Geschäft anfangen werde, würden wir genau so tun wie bei echten Kunden, aber dieses Mal können wir alle Kosten 50/50 teilen. Die Reise ist mit 1-2 Personen möglich.
Ich freue mich auf Ihre Antwort! Fühlen Sie sich bitte frei, auch etwas über die Jagd in Finnland von mir zu fragen, ich werde versuchen zu antworten! Wenn es sich nicht um diese Thema handelt, dann benutze bitte pm.